Yep, people would rather crap on a good idea as to address what they have a problem with it.
Some of the lefties naturally think that the very existence of this place offends them. This is why you see reactionaries on the right starting to emerge.
Welp, the leftist that just wants this place dead simply because it exists might see a new America emerge. Conservatives are by their very nature will hang back before engaging. It's a basic flaw that allows the radical part of the left run rampant. Ironically, the part of the left willing to engage the right is a bit too conservative to denounce their fellows. I suppose the quieter end of the right is just as guilty on their side. So the extremes get to romp and sow chaos.
I'm sad it came to this, Libertas. You made the good faith effort.
But you don't have to suffer those that intend to play on your allowances by thinking this is the SB DS of old, without boundaries.
You are the Root. This is still your home. Those on the left want to engage honestly can be welcome. The radicals on either side who see chaos as the best tool can be told they wore out their welcome. So Bye.
When people talk about left and right I'm reminded of the old William F Buckley and Gore Vidal debates of my youth. Buckley is a cornerstone of the original 1950s conservatine Republican movement. Gore Vidal was an unapologetic bisexual progressive. Of the two, Vidal was honestly the more intelligent. A towering intelligence. Any conservative would pee his pants having to face him and Buckley was both brave and damn smart. Buckley survived Vidal by being careful and focused. I don't used the word "survived" lightly either. But Vidal would be appalled by the left today. He'd call them blithering idiots. Vidal was actually one of the rare Libertarian liberals, with all the philosophical impossibilities that position entails. Like the Founders that chose an unnatural philosophy by basing it on extended logic, so did Vidal, even if it didn't match the Founders' vision. He also didn't hate America either. He claimed ancestry here from before Independence. He wanted to change America but he didn't insult it or want to see it brought low.
Those that see Vidal as a leftist icon can debate with me. They are wrong, naturally, but they rate a voice. They occasionally point out where the right is honestly failing and needs to adapt. My soapbox needs reminding at times where I've gone a bit utopian.
Those trolls reading this thread that can grab their bootstraps and can engage brain to make their point can have some impact to those that actually think.
If all you trolls think that talking is a waste of time then there are 17 million Americans with high combat skills and plenty of real ammunition just waiting to be pushed too far. The US military veterans corps is the largest and well supplied army on the planet, and it leans to the right. The radical left should take Tojo's advice to heart. Don't create the chaos that finally mobilizes us. Nothing short of nuclear winter would stack the bodies deeper. Just because we are reluctant to move won't change the outcome if it happens. Sufferance is a transitory ephemeral condition.
Learn to play nice with people.
